Ask Your Question
0

PSS/E Dynamic Simulation - Negative accelerating P but frequency not decreasing

asked 2025-02-17 02:14:06 -0600

Wai gravatar image

updated 2025-02-17 02:16:05 -0600

Hi Everyone,

I am trying to run a dynamic simulation under low load conditions with two generation units based on the PSSE sample case of SAVNW.SAV in the “EXAMPLE” directory. The contingency involves tripping a generator (the nuclear plant at Bus 101), leaving the whole system supplied by the remaining nuclear plant at Bus 102. The simulation run time is set to over 100 seconds.

From the output results, the total Pmech of all buses is always lower than the total Pelec of all buses, resulting in a negative total Paccl until the end of the simulation. As Paccl is negative all the time, I originally expected that the system frequency will keep decreasing during the simulation due to the generation deficiency in supplying the load. However, the system frequency drops to a certain level and then becomes flat as shown below.

"https:// http://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/b2ua0uswlinktekck6iik/image001.png?rlkey=n53n82t0gmoc5dxevo03pj77l&st=82gn5bba&dl=0%22 (www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/b2ua0uswlinkte...)

Any ideas or explanations for why this is happening?

Thank you so much.

edit retag flag offensive close merge delete

1 answer

Sort by » oldest newest most voted
0

answered 2025-02-17 02:37:23 -0600

perolofl gravatar image

I believe you haven't activated Network frequency dependence in Dynamic Simulation Options:

image description

edit flag offensive delete link more

Comments

Thank you for your reply! Yes, I have tried this and some low load cases do actually work with Paccl nearly zero and flat frequency. However, for those case that the spinning reserve/ P max in governer model cannot cover the generation deficit, the frequency still becomes flat with negative Paccl.

Wai gravatar imageWai ( 2025-02-17 03:26:50 -0600 )edit

Can you show a raw data file of your test system?

perolofl gravatar imageperolofl ( 2025-02-17 03:53:08 -0600 )edit

Thank you for your reply! I think I’ve figured out the reason for negative Paccl. I set the damping factor to 2 in the generator model “GENROU. Is that because Paccl is just “Pmech – Pelec” and doesn’t include the term Dω in the swing equation?

Wai gravatar imageWai ( 2025-02-19 21:24:45 -0600 )edit

Also, I would also like to know how to determine the value for D. In addition, I would like to know the pros and cons of setting non-zero value for D in generator model and setting the frequency dependent term for P in the load model. Thank a lot!

Wai gravatar imageWai ( 2025-02-19 21:24:59 -0600 )edit

Personally, I prefer to set D to zero in the generator model and to model the load frequency dependency with a load model, e.g. LDFRAL.

perolofl gravatar imageperolofl ( 2025-02-20 07:51:25 -0600 )edit

Your Answer

Please start posting anonymously - your entry will be published after you log in or create a new account.

Add Answer

[hide preview]

Question Tools

1 follower

Stats

Asked: 2025-02-17 02:14:06 -0600

Seen: 313 times

Last updated: Feb 17